De La Rue

Welcome to the De La Rue genealogy page! This is the central point of reference for the genealogy of the De La Rue families of Australia. (Alternative spellings: Delarue or de la Rue.) If you are a member of any of the families listed below, this page is for you!

Caroline Agnes
The Caroline Agnes

My main interest is to document the descendants of Thomas and Tabitha (née Edwards) De La Rue, of Leicestershire and Surrey, England, who arrived at Point Henry, Port Phillip District, NSW (now part of Geelong, Victoria), Australia on 28 Jun 1849. They arrived with eight children as assisted migrants on the Caroline Agnes (570t, Master J. Alexander), after departing London, 24 Feb 1849, and settled at Germantown (now Grovedale, a suburb of Geelong), Vic. Two more children were born in Australia after they arrived. Thomas was my great-great-grandfather, and was born in Linghton, Leicestershire on 5 Dec 1808. The children born in England were christened in Camberwell and Walworth in Surrey, so it seems that the family were living there for a few years before they left.  I have records of over 2,000 descendants (including spouses) of Thomas and Tabitha.

Other De La Rue families of interest include:

  • William de la Rue of Forest, Guernsey (born 15 Nov 1822), who arrived in Melbourne, Victoria in Jun 1854. He arrived with his two younger brothers on the Saldanha, having left Liverpool in Mar 1854, and settled at El Dorado, Victoria. William married Louisa Augusta Borchers of Goslar, Hanover, Germany on 4 Sep 1867 at El Dorado. It seems that most of the De La Rues of any note in Victoria are descendants of William and Louisa; I have records of over 155 descendants (including spouses) of this family.
  • Hippolyte Felix Ferdinand De La Rue, of Berck, Normandy, France, who came to Sydney in 1840. This family is documented in the books A Bunyip Close Behind Me and Ladies Didn’t, by Eugenie Crawford. Hippolyte established a jewellery shop in George St, Sydney in 1850.
  • Charles Delarue of Colmar, Alsace, France (born 1824), who arrived in NSW between 1824 and 1860. He married Emma Hines (or Hinds) at Murringo, NSW on 31 Oct 1860; they had eight children. This family includes sports presenter Dennis Cometti in its ranks.  I have not yet documented all the recent information on this family.
  • Thomas de la Rue, of Forest, Guernsey (born 24 Mar 1793), who moved to England and set up as a printer. The company he founded is still in existence – see the history page at delarue.com. This is available in more detail in Lorna Houseman’s book The House that Thomas Built. It is not clear how many descendants of this family are in Australia, but there is at least one in New Zealand. Although Thomas was born in the same village as William, as yet I cannot find any family connection.
  • Eliza Anne De La Rue, apparently of Paris, France (born about 1824). Keryn contacted me regarding Eliza, her great-great-great-grandmother, who I was previously unaware of.  She lived in Melbourne, but there is a great deal of uncertainty about her. She said that she married John Winbanks in Sydney in 1854.
  • Adelina De La Rue, of St Helier, Jersey, UK (born around 1866). Bruce contacted me regarding Adelina, his great-grandmother – another De La Rue in Australia I was unaware of. According to the UK census, she was living at 13 Havre Des Pas in St Helier in 1871 and 1881. Her parents were Francis De La Rue, a Fireman, later “Greenwich pensioner” and Emma (nee Diddins). She migrated from Jersey to Sydney, Australia in the 1890’s, but was originally bound for New Zealand.

A number of members of the families are also engaged in this research. I am also researching my own ‘pedigree’ as much as possible – other family names of interest include Kelly, Westwood and Lamb. There is convict ancestry here – the De La Rue family is linked to the Thorowgood family, and the Kelly family is linked to First Fleet convicts Nathaniel Lucas and Olivia Gascoigne.

The Family

Thomas & Tabitha had 11 children. Their dates of birth were as follows. The first nine of these were born in Surrey, England; the last two were born in Geelong, Australia.

  1. James 19 Aug 1831
  2. Jane 1834
  3. William 1836
  4. Mary Maria 1838
  5. Jemima 1840
  6. Tabitha 1842
  7. Martha 1842 (not listed on shipping register – may have died earlier)
  8. Thomas 1845 (no records in Victoria after ship arrival)
  9. Daniel Charles 1848
  10. Robert William 1849 (approx)
  11. John 1852

Photos

I do not seem to have any photos of Thomas, but this is a tin-type that we believe is of Tabitha Edwards:

Tabitha Edwards
Tabitha Edwards, 1813-1882

My great-grandparents:

James De La Rue, 1831-1893 Sarah Betts, 1839-1914
James De La Rue Snr (1831-1893) and Sarah Betts (1839-1914)

My grandparents:

James De La Rue Jnr Annie Westwood 1940
James De La Rue Jnr (1860-1917) and Annie Westwood (1869-1944 – photo 1940)

The name “De La Rue”

The name is French in origin (meaning “of the street” or “of the road”). In the original French it is spelled “de la Rue”; today it is also often spelled as one word in English-speaking countries. Other alternative spellings found include “De La Rew”, “De La Roux” and “De La Reu”. Some of these variations may be due to varying levels of literacy. Then there is the question of the relationship to “La Rue” and “Rue”. (In some countries, prefixes like “de la” are sometimes ignored.)

The name appears in France, and has also been on the Channel Islands (particularly Guernsey) for some time.  There are suggestions that the name may have either noble or Huguenot associations, and that it arrived in England from France as early as the late 11th century. An alternative version of a De La Rue family tree included in Lorna Houseman’s book The House that Thomas Built states that the first recorded appearance of the name in Guernsey was a land grant from a Danish king in the 12th century.

Richard de la Rue (who has commented below) reported recently that the De La Rue Company presented a family tree at an exhibition a few decades ago which included research into the origins of the name in Guernsey.  This research reported that there are two distinct families on Guernsey, the latest of which came to the island as Huguenot exiles in the 16th century from the Limoges area of France. He reports that the earliest known record of the name in Guernsey dates back to a document of 1179.  Richard also wrote:

“A few years ago [2001], La Société Guernesiaise assisted University College London (UCL) and the BBC in a project called ‘The Blood of the Vikings’ in which they traced the reach of the Vikings according to the DNA in each long lived family in Guernsey. (It made pretty dull TV.) The Viking gene shows up as a particular type of the male chromosome and they tested this against one representative of each old Guernsey family. I had the privilege of being the representative for the De La Rues and was told that I had a gene commonly found in Norway; thus I think this points to me belonging to the older De La Rue family dating back to 1179 rather than the lot that came from southern-central France. All very tenuous I know, but when people ask me how long I have lived in Guernsey, I like the romance of replying that I’ve been here for 800 years!”

As I can only trace my De La Rue forebears back to Leicestershire, I still cannot connect my family back to any of these origins – nor to any of the other families mentioned here!

Heraldry and nobility

I have seen two distinct Coats of Arms for the De La Rue name.  One of these (which is listed formally in Burke’s Peerage) belongs to one branch of the family of Thomas de la Rue, the printer. His grandson Thomas Andros De La Rue was created a Baronet on 17 Jun 1898, and thus the coat of arms strictly only belongs to his descendants.  Andrew George Ilay De La Rue of London is the current (fourth) Baronet.  Read more on Wikipedia. (If you are not a member of this family, then any heraldry organisation that would like to convince you that you are entitled to it probably only wants your money!)

The formal description of this Coat of Arms is: “Or three bars gu., each charged with as many estoiles of the first, in chief an increscent and a decrescent of the second. Crest – A brazier gu. fired between two branches of laurel, issuant from the flames thereof, a serpent nowed and erect ppr”. The motto with this is: “Cherche la verité” (“Seek the truth”).

The other coat of arms I have only seen rough sketches of, and have no clarity on the origin (or accuracy) of this at all. This one includes forts or castles.

Lamb Family

Jane Lamb (nee Burton), abt 1909
Jane Lamb (née Burton), about 1909

My mother’s mother was Alice Dale Lamb, born on 16 Jul 1887.  Her parents were Peter Lamb and Jane Burton, and they arrived in Australia in Nov 1884 on the Loch Ness (one of the Loch Line ships – made infamous by the sinking of the Loch Ard).  Peter was 25, Jane 26, and their eldest daughter Lizzie had her first birthday on the ship on the way out.  The Lamb family in Australia stayed in touch with their relatives in Scotland down the generations since, and I have maintained some contact with them myself, visiting Peter’s family home in Greenlaw, Berwickshire, in 1983, which is still owned and occupied by the Lamb family.  Of all my pedigree, this is the only family that we still have some contact with in their country of origin.

Thorowgood family

Joseph Thorowgood was born in Cardington, England in around 1800.  He was charged on four counts of sheep stealing on 24 Oct 1828, and transported for life, leaving on the “Bussorah Merchant” on 6 Oct 1829, arriving Hobart, Tasmania 18 Jan 1830.  He left his wife and four children in England; Mary Ann was expecting the fifth (Elizabeth).  They were later allowed to join him, arriving on 10 Jan 1833.  Joseph was my great-great-great-grandfather – his daughter Edith married Robert Betts, and their daughter Sarah married James De La Rue, my great-grandfather.

There are many variations on the spelling of his surname – it was spelt “Thorogood” on ship’s records, but also appears as “Thoroughgood”, “Thurgood”, “Thurrowgood” and others.

His family was documented in the book “The Thurrowgood Story” by the late John F Hill, which had a limited publishing run of 400 numbered copies, in around 1985.  Some copies of this book are still available from the Colac & District Family History Group Inc., at PO Box 219, Colac, Vic 3250.

GEDCOM Files

Information on the above families is available on request in two files:

  • DeLaRue – The families of Thomas and Tabitha De La Rue and William de la Rue. This also includes all information on my own pedigree.
  • DeLaRueX – All other available De La Rue information – the families of Hippolyte Felix Ferdinand De La Rue, Charles Delarue, Thomas de la Rue and some records found that are not yet connected.

Please contact me or use the comment field below if you would like a copy of these files, and I can email them to you.

More info

A public copy of my family’s GEDCOM file has also been uploaded at Ancestry.com; although I have since acquired more information. You can view the database here – but you may need to register with them first (free).

Please contact me for more details. I am happy to load any information on the families here.

My genealogy software of choice is FZip Family Tree.

Shortcut to this page: http://delarue.net/gen/

152 comments

  1. Dawn –

    Thanks for getting in touch! So we are in the same family – the Thomas you mention is our ancestor who came out from England in 1849. And I’m afraid that I still have not been able to go back much further in our tree than you have!

    I will be in touch with you by email in the next few days to share the info that I do have.

    – Keith

  2. Hi Keith,
    I have just started research into my De La Rue connections. My maternal grandmother was Edith Mary De La Rue, daughter of Charles William De La Rue and Ethel Gibbs. Charles’ parents Daniel Charles De La Rue and Margaret Bateman. His father Thomas De La Rue and his parents William Charles De La Rue (?) and Elizabeth Brown (?). No end of trouble with the Ancestry/library site and cannot confirm or go back further than this at this point. Any information that may get me back on track please?
    Dawn

  5. Ian –

    Thanks for getting in touch. Yes, I have been in further contact with Donna. I will send more detail by email.

    -Keith

  6. Hello,
    As in an earlier posting by Donna (29 October 2022), I am trying to trace (Count?) Henry Armand De La Rue and wonder if anyone within either the male or female direct De La Rue have ever done any DNA trace testing?
    I am trying to either prove or disprove an anecdotal and generational history that needs to be put to bed once and for all.
    My DNA detail is:
    Y-DNA Haplogroup R-Z8
    mtDNA H1b1-T16362C
    I have done full range testing so am hoping that maybe there will be someone within the known and proven De La Rue (or variant) who can assist here.
    Thank you for your page.

  7. Mark –

    Thanks for your comment – nice to hear from you! Yes, I started with Lawson’s work back in 2000 – my mother knew her at the time. I have only seen the one paper that she wrote – I still have a copy.

    – Keith

  8. Hi Keith, some great information on your De La Rue page. Thank you.

    Have you seen the series of short papers written by D Lawson in the 1980’s, including one titled “The De La Rue Family, of France”? I have had a photocopy of these since then, but the print is now quite faded. The series includes some copies of photos of our De La Rue relations, most of which I have not seen elsewhere.

    Regards,

    Mark

  9. Sharon –

    Thanks for all the detail! Yes, we are related. I will reply to you with more detail by email in the next few days.

    – Keith

  10. Hi Keith

    I believe we are related as I’m a descendant of Thomas and Tabitha (nee Edwards) De La Rue. They were my great great great grandparents. Their daughter Tabitha De La Rue married Jonathan Kellett and I’m a descendant from that line on my mother’s father’s side. I found the family tree on Wikiteee and also my great Aunty Caroline Agnes “Carrie” (nee Kellett) Lithgow, handed down a hand written family tree. I was always intrigued by the Tabitha De La Rue name in the family and curious to know more, particularly of any French connections. Also interesting is that my great Aunty Carrie was obviously named after the ship that transported the De La Rue family to Australia.

    Thanks for the great information. If you ever find the French connection I’d be interested.

    Kind regards
    Sharon

  11. Donna –

    Unfortunately, I have no information at all on this family. There does not seem to be a lot of info readily available, as I am sure you are aware! In particular, I can’t immediately see any records of Henry Armand’s birth or parents, so it isn’t easy to connect him to any other De La Rues on Guernsey. I will email you some links to the little info I have found by searching. Sorry I can’t be of any further assistance!

    – Keith

  12. Hi Keith, do you have any information on a Count Henry Armand De La Rue, Birth around 1788 to 1810 from Guernsey, channel Islands. He was my ggg grandfather. The story is he died in a boating accident. He married Elizabeth Sophia Rouget (born 1819, St Peter Port) in 1837 and had a daughter Harriet (born 1841 to 1845 St Helier). Elizabeth and Harriet migrated to Australia in 1848-9 after Henry died. There are no records of the marriage or the birth of Harriet, do you have any information? Henry would of been 31 years older than Elizabeth, my thoughts are an affair and a baby out of wedlock, with Elizabeth and Harriet making a new life in Australia. Wondering if you can shed some light!

  13. Leanne –

    Thanks for your comment! Nice to know. I have been in contact with a few of your family members from the area over the last few years.

    – Keith

  14. Hi Keith,

    I’m just letting you us De La Rue’s are still living at El Dorado.
    Some of the family are also in Wangaratta, Tarrawingee, Everton and Myrtleford.

    Leanne D – El Dorado

  16. Hi Keith,
    We were last in contact in 2011, discussing Alice Elizabeth and her husband Walter Gear (m. 1905). The missing link is their son Walter Lancelot(!) George b 1918. Walter’s wife is 95 and doing well!
    I seem to have misplaced any documents you emailed me. Would it be possible to re-send?
    Many thanks,
    Steph G, Melbourne.

  17. Katrina –

    Yes, you are descended from Thomas and Tabitha. However, Charles William was the son of Daniel Charles De La Rue and Margaret Emma Bateman – Daniel was a younger brother of James. Thomas and Tabitha were James and Daniel’s parents.

    – Keith

  18. Hi Keith

    I believe I am a descendant of Thomas and Tabitha.
    My grandfather was William Bishop de la Rue. His parents were Charles William de la Rue and Ethel Mary and his parents were James and Sarah.

    Thanks
    Katrina

  19. G’day Annette
    My Mother (Grand Daughter of Adelina ) will be so pleased to hear this information.
    I have asked Keith to pass on my contact details .
    I will be in the UK next year to visit my Daughter who lives and works in London .
    We would love to catch up if that’s possible .

    Many Thanks
    Bruce

  21. Hello Bruce,
    We share the same great great grand parents, Francis De La Rue and Emma Louisa. My great grandfather was Francis Alfred born 1861 died 1940, brother of Adelina (and her twin Louisa) born 1866.
    Francis Alfred had 3 children …..Violet Emily May born 1890 sadly died aged 3 months, Francis Albert Lambert born 1895 died 1918 (WW1 ?) and Archibald Grove born 1896 died 1950 (my grandfather). Archibald then had my father Francis Evans born 1926 died 1997 and Marjorie Alvina born 1932 died 2015. I have an adopted sister, Marjorie has 2 adopted daughters and so I am the last of the DeLa Rue on this branch of the family. Archibald settled in Great Harwood Lancashire UK, Marjorie in Rishton Lancashire UK and Francis Evans in Blackburn/Blackpool Lancashire UK.
    I hope this information is of interest.
    Regards
    Annette De La Rue (born 1960)

  22. Fiona – 

    Thanks for your comment. Happy to send you more information. I have emailed you to ask for more details of your parents and grandparents (names, dates of birth). I will then be able to give you a full tree of your De La Rue ancestors.

    – Keith

  23. Hello,

    I am a descendant of Thomas and Tabitha De la Rue though their daughter Mary Maria de la rue who married John Wilson. Their daughter Mary Wilson was my great grandmother. Any information you could share would be much appreciated.

  24. Randy –

    I don’t have any specific details to assist, as I have not yet been able to connect my family back to France. However, the information I have from DNA indicates that my ancestry goes back to Scandinavia, thus it is possible that my ancestors were Normans, and La Ferte-Bernard is fairly close to Normandy. It would be interesting to compare DNA. If you have had a sample taken, you could upload your file to gedmatch.com to see if we are connected.

    – Keith

  25. My grandmother was Martha De La Rue born in La Ferte-Bernard, France in 1897 died in 1956 in Pensacola, Florida, USA. Married to George D. Constantine in Le Mans, France in 1918. My grandfather was born in Skopelos, Greece in 1888 and died in 1965 in Pensacola, Florida, USA. Lived in Florida most of their adult lives. I’m trying to trace my grandmother’s family origins – her parents and grandparents. La Ferte-Bernard is located in north-western France. Thanks for any help you can provide!

  26. Tracy –

    Thanks for your comment, and the info!

    I’m sorry, but this still does not seem to connect with any of my data. One thing first – when you mention Halifax and Bradford, which country and region are you referring to? (There are a few possibilities!) Were any of the family members you name in Australia? Some locations would help, and any more birth/death/marriage dates that you have.

    Thanks,

    – Keith

  27. Hi Kieth I’m replying to another post on your thread
    Regarding May Delarue and Alfred William Mustoe
    There my great Grandparents too but iv no idea of the connection to the lady posting ?
    As far as I know May De La Rue s parent we’re James and Agnes Ellen
    Other children were Arther,Elsie,James R and May they come from Halifax
    When they married in 1918 James was already dead and his sister witnessed the certificate a Florence Jane De La Rue
    Alfred William Mustoe came from Bradford him and May divorced and May married an Eric Askey and later died in a car accident
    Hope you can connect the dots for me I’m so intrigued now
    Regards Tracy Gibson (Mustoe)

  29. Hi everyone,

    I was looking for a Sharna del la rue that I played darts against in Canberra in 1996 would like to catch up and say hi & see how she’s been. Any help if any would be greatful.

    Thankyou.

  30. Angie –

    I can’t find the name Mustoe in my data – can you give me some more info? The names of May’s parents, or any birth/death/marriage dates that you may have would help.

    – Keith

  31. Hi,

    Trying to search my fathers side of the family, found my great grandmother May De La Rue she married Alfred William Mustoe and that’s as far as I got 😂

  32. Deborah –

    I do have Estelle on my file, but very little info, I’m sorry. I have her father as David Charles De La Rue (1915-1976). David’s grandfather was William Henry De La Rue, who arrived in Australia from Guernsey in 1854 at the age of 32. I can give you more info on David’s family if it helps.

    – Keith

  33. Searching for Estelle DeLa Rue, daughter of David and Stella Menzies (Battin) They lived in Wangaratta, Victoria from approx 1940s when they were marred to their deaths. Daughter Estelle would now be around 80?
    Trying to put together own family tree on Menzies side.

    Thank you.

  34. Brett –

    Nice to hear from you! I don’t think that I had seen that before. Not sure what the verdict should have been there! It looks like Thomas and Tabitha had already moved down to Duneed from Germantown by then.

    – Keith

  37. Hi Keith
    I have Charles Henry De La Rue 1895–, Birth 1895 Cundare ?, Vic
    Married to
    Viola Allison (Lola) TADGELL, Birth C1908 Kew, Victoria
    on the 22 Dec 1935, Holy Trinity Church, Kew, Melbourne. in my tree

    A copy of their Engagement from Trove Newspapers – Table Talk 21 Dec 1933:
    The Engagement is announced of Lola Allison, youngest daughter of Mrs M. L. Tadgell, 8 Victoria Road, Camberwell and the late Mr V. A. Tadgell, to Charles H. (Harry), younger son of Mrs M. A. de la Rue, MacLeod, and the late Mr J. de la Rue.

    Also from Trove is a Death Notice for Charles – Family Notices, Argus, 30 Sep 1955:

    DE LA RUE. – On September 28, at his home, 11 Tower avenue, Alphington, Charles Henry, dearly loved husband of Lola, loved father of John and Peter, and loved brother of James Morton, aged 60 years.

    Do you have any info on his wife Violet Allison Tadgell? Her Mother Mary Isabella Allison is my 1st Cousin 3 removed.

    Cheers for now

    John Allison

  38. Rachel –

    Thanks! Ernest was the third son of Warren de la Rue, thus the grandson of Thomas de la Rue, the printer from Guernsey. As above, I have yet to find a connection between this family and mine.

    – Keith

  39. Hi Keith – great page there…. I am only vaguely and distantly connected to the De La Rues but their story is an interesting one. My 1st cousin 1x removed, Florence Gay Octavia Wynn Williams 1852-1943 married Sir Ernest De La Rue 1852-1929.

    I am always interested in obtaining photos to add to the family tree.

    Thanking anyone willing to share with me in advance.

    Rachel Williams
    Canada

  40. Carlie –

    Alfred’s wife was Alice Margaret Flintoff. Yes, there were three children – the eldest was Lillian Myrtle, then Alfred John (junior) and Albert Arthur. I do have some more info on the family – I willl email you in the next few days.

    – Keith

  41. Hi Keith,
    Do you have any information on Alfred’s children and their spouses? My grandmothers father was Albert however I cant find any information on him or his siblings (Alfred and Lillian I believe), my grandmother said he had a sister named Myrtle but that doesn’t add up, unless Lillian went by Myrtle?
    -Carlie

  42. Carlie –

    Your great-great grandfather was Alfred John De La Rue (known as Jack). He was born in El Dorado, Victoria (near Wangaratta) in 1876. He was the son of William Henry De La Rue, who came out to Australia in March 1854. You can read about William on the page above. I will send you more info.

    – Keith

  43. Hi Keith, My grandmothers maiden name was De La Rue, I don’t know a lot about her side of the family except that her grandfather was A.J De La Rue and was the Mayor of Oakleigh 1939/1940. Do you have any information regarding this lineage?

  44. Bruce –

    Well, this is another De La Rue that I was not aware of, I’m sorry! I have added a note to the page with the details you provided. Hopefully someone else with some info may see it. Would be happy to discuss further, to see if I can find some connection with the data I have.

    – Keith.

  45. Gday Keith
    Looking for any more information for my great grandmother :
    Adelina De La Rue
    Born in 1866-1887
    According to the Uk Census in 1871 & 1881 living at :
    13 Havre Des Pas
    St Helier
    Jersey
    Father : Francis De La Rue (Fireman thence Greenwich Pensioner).
    Mother : Emma De La Rue (nee Diddins
    She migrated from Jersey (1890’s) to Australia originally bound for New Zealand but got off in Sydney.
    Someone paid for her passage to Australia/New Zealand and she wasn’t in steerage as a pax.
    Any clues or information would be helpful.
    Cheers
    Bruce

  46. Simon –

    Thanks for getting in touch! Thanks very much for the offer. I will be happy to share data with you – look forward to catching up!

    – Keith

  47. Hi Keith

    I’m a Guernsey De La Rue, descended from printer Thomas’ younger brother William, I believe.

    I’m now resident in Melbourne (as of last Wed) but will be returning to Guernsey briefly at Christmas.

    Perhaps I could be of help by taking a small selection of queries back to the Priaulx Library while I’m home. They have comprehensive records and are very helpful.

    I’d be interested, also, to see your family tree research, especially if it marries up to the trees I’ve already got.

    Thanks,
    Simon De La Rue

  48. Joe –

    I can confirm that Thomas did have a daughter named Mary – born 29 Aug 1829. She appears in the records as a legitimate daughter. I have found a record online that she married a John Williams in 1851. I do not know where she lived – she married locally. I have not heard of any illegitimate children.

    – Keith

  49. Hi, the De La Rue families. Can anyone confirm if Thomas De La Rue, the founder of the printing empire, had an illegitimate daughter named Mary who went on to live at Biddulph Grange in Staffordshire?

    Regards

    Joe La Rosa

  50. Angela –

    Thanks for your comment and feedback – and that link; I will check it out! Yes, George’s first wife was Elizabeth, who was Jemima’s great-aunt. George and Elizabeth had 14 children. When Elizabeth passed away, George married Jemima, who already had one child from an un-named father. George and Jemima then had eight children.

    So your husband and I are third cousins, as we have the same great, great grandparents.

    – Keith

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