De La Rue

Keith November 19th, 2008

Welcome to the De La Rue genealogy page! This is the central point of reference for the genealogy of the De La Rue families of Australia. (Alternative spellings: Delarue or de la Rue.) If you are a member of any of the families listed below, this page is for you!

Caroline Agnes
The Caroline Agnes

My main interest is to document the descendants of Thomas and Tabitha (née Edwards) De La Rue, of Leicestershire and Surrey, England, who arrived at Point Henry, Port Phillip District, NSW (now part of Geelong, Victoria), Australia on 28 Jun 1849. They arrived with eight children as assisted migrants on the Caroline Agnes (570t, Master J. Alexander), after departing London, 24 Feb 1849, and settled at Germantown (now Grovedale, a suburb of Geelong), Vic. Two more children were born in Australia after they arrived. Thomas was my great-great-grandfather, and was born in Linghton, Leicestershire on 5 Dec 1808. The children born in England were christened in Camberwell and Walworth in Surrey, so it seems that the family were living there for a few years before they left.  I have records of over 2,000 descendants (including spouses) of Thomas and Tabitha.

Other De La Rue families of interest include:

  • William de la Rue of Forest, Guernsey (born 15 Nov 1822), who arrived in Melbourne, Victoria in Jun 1854. He arrived with his two younger brothers on the Saldanha, having left Liverpool in Mar 1854, and settled at El Dorado, Victoria. William married Louisa Augusta Borchers of Goslar, Hanover, Germany on 4 Sep 1867 at El Dorado. It seems that most of the De La Rues of any note in Victoria are descendants of William and Louisa; I have records of over 155 descendants (including spouses) of this family.
  • Hippolyte Felix Ferdinand De La Rue, of Berck, Normandy, France, who came to Sydney in 1840. This family is documented in the books A Bunyip Close Behind Me and Ladies Didn’t, by Eugenie Crawford. Hippolyte established a jewellery shop in George St, Sydney in 1850.
  • Charles Delarue of Colmar, Alsace, France (born 1824), who arrived in NSW between 1824 and 1860. He married Emma Hines (or Hinds) at Murringo, NSW on 31 Oct 1860; they had eight children. This family includes sports presenter Dennis Cometti in its ranks.  I have not yet documented all the recent information on this family.
  • Thomas de la Rue, of Forest, Guernsey (born 24 Mar 1793), who moved to England and set up as a printer. The company he founded is still in existence – see the history page at delarue.com. This is available in more detail in Lorna Houseman’s book The House that Thomas Built. It is not clear how many descendants of this family are in Australia, but there is at least one in New Zealand. Although Thomas was born in the same village as William, as yet I cannot find any family connection.
  • Eliza Anne De La Rue, apparently of Paris, France (born about 1824). Keryn contacted me regarding Eliza, her great-great-great-grandmother, who I was previously unaware of.  She lived in Melbourne, but there is a great deal of uncertainty about her. She said that she married John Winbanks in Sydney in 1854.

A number of members of the families are also engaged in this research. I am also researching my own ‘pedigree’ as much as possible – other family names of interest include Kelly, Westwood and Lamb. There is convict ancestry here – the De La Rue family is linked to the Thorowgood family, and the Kelly family is linked to First Fleet convicts Nathaniel Lucas and Olivia Gascoigne.

The Family

Thomas & Tabitha had 11 children. Their dates of birth were as follows. The first nine of these were born in Surrey, England; the last two were born in Geelong, Australia.

  1. James 19 Aug 1831
  2. Jane 1834
  3. William 1836
  4. Mary Maria 1838
  5. Jemima 1840
  6. Tabitha 1842
  7. Martha 1842 (not listed on shipping register – may have died earlier)
  8. Thomas 1845 (no records in Victoria after ship arrival)
  9. Daniel Charles 1848
  10. Robert William 1849 (approx)
  11. John 1852

Photos

I do not seem to have any photos of Thomas, but this is a tin-type that we believe is of Tabitha Edwards:

Tabitha Edwards
Tabitha Edwards, 1813-1882

My great-grandparents:

James De La Rue, 1831-1893 Sarah Betts, 1839-1914
James De La Rue Snr (1831-1893) and Sarah Betts (1839-1914)

 My grandparents:

James De La Rue Jnr Annie Westwood 1940
James De La Rue Jnr (1860-1917) and Annie Westwood (1869-1944 – photo 1940)

The name “De La Rue”

The name is French in origin (meaning “of the street” or “of the road”). In the original French it is spelled “de la Rue”; today it is also often spelled as one word in English-speaking countries. Other alternative spellings found include “De La Rew”, “De La Roux” and ”De La Reu”. Some of these variations may be due to varying levels of literacy. Then there is the question of the relationship to “La Rue” and “Rue”. (In some countries, prefixes like “de la” are sometimes ignored.)

The name appears in France, and has also been on the Channel Islands (particularly Guernsey) for some time.  There are suggestions that the name may have either noble or Huguenot associations, and that it arrived in England from France as early as the late 11th century. An alternative version of a De La Rue family tree included in Lorna Houseman’s book The House that Thomas Built states that the first recorded appearance of the name in Guernsey was a land grant from a Danish king in the 12th century.

Richard de la Rue (who has commented below) reported recently that the De La Rue Company presented a family tree at an exhibition a few decades ago which included research into the origins of the name in Guernsey.  This research reported that there are two distinct families on Guernsey, the latest of which came to the island as Huguenot exiles in the 16th century from the Limoges area of France. He reports that the earliest known record of the name in Guernsey dates back to a document of 1179.  Richard also wrote:

“A few years ago [2001], La Société Guernesiaise assisted University College London (UCL) and the BBC in a project called ‘The Blood of the Vikings’ in which they traced the reach of the Vikings according to the DNA in each long lived family in Guernsey. (It made pretty dull TV.) The Viking gene shows up as a particular type of the male chromosome and they tested this against one representative of each old Guernsey family. I had the privilege of being the representative for the De La Rues and was told that I had a gene commonly found in Norway; thus I think this points to me belonging to the older De La Rue family dating back to 1179 rather than the lot that came from southern-central France. All very tenuous I know, but when people ask me how long I have lived in Guernsey, I like the romance of replying that I’ve been here for 800 years!”

As I can only trace my De La Rue forebears back to Leicestershire, I still cannot connect my family back to any of these origins – nor to any of the other families mentioned here!

Heraldry and nobility

I have seen two distinct Coats of Arms for the De La Rue name.  One of these (which is listed formally in Burke’s Peerage) belongs to one branch of the family of Thomas de la Rue, the printer. His grandson Thomas Andros De La Rue was created a Baronet on 17 Jun 1898, and thus the coat of arms strictly only belongs to his descendants.  Andrew George Ilay De La Rue of London is the current (fourth) Baronet.  Read more on Wikipedia. (If you are not a member of this family, then any heraldry organisation that would like to convince you that you are entitled to it probably only wants your money!)

The formal description of this Coat of Arms is: “Or three bars gu., each charged with as many estoiles of the first, in chief an increscent and a decrescent of the second. Crest – A brazier gu. fired between two branches of laurel, issuant from the flames thereof, a serpent nowed and erect ppr”. The motto with this is: ”Cherche la verité” (”Seek the truth”).

The other coat of arms I have only seen rough sketches of, and have no clarity on the origin (or accuracy) of this at all. This one includes forts or castles.

Lamb Family

Jane Lamb (nee Burton), abt 1909
Jane Lamb (née Burton), about 1909

My mother’s mother was Alice Dale Lamb, born on 16 Jul 1887.  Her parents were Peter Lamb and Jane Burton, and they arrived in Australia in Nov 1884 on the Loch Ness (one of the Loch Line ships – made infamous by the sinking of the Loch Ard).  Peter was 25, Jane 26, and their eldest daughter Lizzie had her first birthday on the ship on the way out.  The Lamb family in Australia stayed in touch with their relatives in Scotland down the generations since, and I have maintained some contact with them myself, visiting Peter’s family home in Greenlaw, Berwickshire, in 1983, which is still owned and occupied by the Lamb family.  Of all my pedigree, this is the only family that we still have some contact with in their country of origin.

Thorowgood family

Joseph Thorowgood was born in Cardington, England in around 1800.  He was charged on four counts of sheep stealing on 24 Oct 1828, and transported for life, leaving on the “Bussorah Merchant” on 6 Oct 1829, arriving Hobart, Tasmania 18 Jan 1830.  He left his wife and four children in England; Mary Ann was expecting the fifth (Elizabeth).  They were later allowed to join him, arriving on 10 Jan 1833.  Joseph was my great-great-great-grandfather – his daughter Edith married Robert Betts, and their daughter Sarah married James De La Rue, my great-grandfather.

There are many variations on the spelling of his surname – it was spelt “Thorogood” on ship’s records, but also appears as “Thoroughgood”, “Thurgood”, “Thurrowgood” and others.

His family was documented in the book “The Thurrowgood Story” by the late John F Hill, which had a limited publishing run of 400 numbered copies, in around 1985.  Some copies of this book are still available from the Colac & District Family History Group Inc., at PO Box 219, Colac, Vic 3250.

GEDCOM Files

Information on the above families is available on request in two files:

  • DeLaRue – The families of Thomas and Tabitha De La Rue and William de la Rue. This also includes all information on my own pedigree.
  • DeLaRueX – All other available De La Rue information – the families of Hippolyte Felix Ferdinand De La Rue, Charles Delarue, Thomas de la Rue and some records found that are not yet connected.

Please contact me or use the comment field below if you would like a copy of these files, and I can email them to you.

More info

A public copy of my family’s GEDCOM file has also been uploaded at Ancestry.com; although I have since acquired more information. You can view the database here – but you may need to register with them first (free).

Please contact me for more details. I am happy to load any information on the families here.

My genealogy software of choice is FZip Family Tree.

Shortcut to this page: http://delarue.net/gen/

90 Responses to “De La Rue”

  1. Matthew Wilsonon 22 Oct 2008 at 8:35 pm

    Hello,
    After reading your Family History site, I believe we are related.

    My great great great grandmother was Mary Maria Delarue who married John Wilson. I come in through their daughter Mary Jane, and in turn Daniel Gordon and then my grandfather Stanley Gordon Wilson.

    Cheers

  2. Keithon 21 Nov 2008 at 7:05 pm

    Matthew –
    Thanks for your note, and for your patience! Yes, we are definitely related. I haven’t previously had any details on the descendants of Mary Jane, your great great grandmother. Would love to compare notes on your branch of the family!
    – Keith

  3. Jenniferon 17 Sep 2008 at 10:01 am

    Hi

    I was researching my family tree when I found the name “Rue” in it. When I looked further I discovered their name was Delarue, De La Rue, La Rue, Rew etc.

    I was really interested in the reason why they varied their name? I also found because of the name variations some of them are hard to trace. The Rues in my tree come from around Carcoar, Molong, Canowindra, Orange etc. Is there a connection to your mob?

    Robert Edward married Phoebe Lucinda Plunkett in 1875 at Carcoar. The line then works back into the Rayners then into the Nelsons etc.

    Well, that’s all for now.

    Regards, Jennifer

  4. Keithon 30 Sep 2008 at 2:43 pm

    Jennifer -

    Thanks for your comment. I can’t find a direct connection to my family, but given the place names, it is likely that you may be connected to the family of Charles Delarue of Colmar, Alsace, France. A number of other people have done work on this family.

    You may find that the variations in the name are due to varying levels of literacy. I have observed this a number of times. There are a number of alternatives for spelling the name. Apart from the choice of case and number of words (Delarue, De La Rue and de la Rue are all common), there are a number of alternatives that make life even more difficult. Some of these we know are related, others are not certain: De La Rew, De La Roux, De La Reu and more. Then there is the question of the relationship to La Rue and Rue.  In some cases in Europe, prefixes like “de la” are just sometines ignored.

    As my family came out to Australia via England, I assume that the capitalised spelling that we use is an Anglicisation. One branch of my family deliberately adopted the single-word spelling about three or four generations ago as a further simplification. The other families, having come out directly from France or the Channel Islands, tend to have retained the original lower case for the “de la”.

    - Keith.

  5. Carol Hoathon 14 Jul 2008 at 7:11 am

    Hi

    My grandma is 92 soon and she is Grace De La Rue in Gembrook, Vic. My mother is her eldest daughter and she then had seven sons. There is a very large family and I noticed there is very little information on the ancestry website about this part of the De la rue family. Hope I can help to fill in the gaps with my mother’s help.

    Regards, Carol

  6. Keithon 31 Jul 2008 at 3:00 pm

    Carol -

    Thanks for the info. Yes, we are in the same family. I will drop you an email. Look forward to filling in those gaps!

    - Keith

  7. Richard De La Rueon 05 May 2008 at 3:34 pm

    Hello there

    This is mainly a ‘what’s in a name’ sort of hello message. My daughter’s name is Sarah – but I don’t know whether it’s her featuring in your blog. I am a professor in electronic engineering in the University of Glasgow in the U.K.

    I know of one other person in the U.K. who is called Richard De La Rue. I have no known U.K born ancestors, since my father was born in Russia – and our ancestry connects back to someone who is believed to have gone from France to Russia in the late 18th Century. Before that, who knows? The way that my surname is written is the result of a choice by my father and/or grandfather. In Russian it was written as a single word.

    best wishes,
    Richard De La Rue

  8. Keithon 31 May 2008 at 3:56 pm

    Richard -

    Nice to hear from you. I have not previously struck any De La Rue connection to Russia! We certainly seem to be a cosmopolitan lot…

    The Sarah that commented here previously is based in the USA – does that help?

    - Keith.

  9. lynda watsonon 28 Dec 2008 at 9:27 pm

    dear keith

    where are you connected in the de la rue family? i am connected to william robert ballagh and irene de la rue if you need any more info do email me.

    from lynda watson

  10. Keithon 28 Dec 2008 at 11:05 pm

    Lynda -

    We did correspond some time ago, and I do owe you an email! Irene was my father’s first cousin.

    – Keith.

  11. Michelle De La Rueon 27 Jan 2009 at 8:54 am

    Hi Keith

    I am just starting out with this family tree business I only know as far back as my grandfather at the moment. His name Elmer De La Rue born in Guernsey Channel Islands about 1914, not sure if he had any siblings? but he married Doris and had 3 children

    would you happen to know of him in your tree?

    Michelle

  12. Keithon 27 Jan 2009 at 10:12 am

    Michelle –

    Thanks for your comment. Unfortunately, I only really have records of De La Rues in Guernsey up to the point they migrated; I don’t have any for 1914. There may be a connection to the Australian or English migrants, but not one that I have found yet. If you can get a connection back a bit further and we find a connection to one of these, then hopefully I can help.

    Apparently there is a library in Guernsey that is quite helpful on the relevant records.

    - Keith.

  13. Terry Dowintonon 07 Feb 2009 at 5:06 am

    Hi Keith
    I am currently building my database of Guernsey De La Rues.
    I would be interested in receiving a gedcom of the William De La Rue of Guernsey Australian descendants.
    I use the Mormon software (PAF)
    I would also be happy to try and help anyone with any Guernsey De La Rue research.

    Terry

  14. Melissa Johnsonon 10 Mar 2009 at 12:15 pm

    Hi Keith,
    My great-grandmother is Emma Kent, my grandfather if Thomas Kent. I would love a copy of your De La Rue family gedcom and a chance to exchange information.
    Regards,
    Melissa

  15. Kerynon 07 Oct 2009 at 2:19 pm

    Hi Keith,
    My ggggrandmother has always been a mystery; she has claimed her name to be: Eliza/Elizabeth Delarue/De La Rue/Veourvance/White/Smith … she claims to have married my ggggrandfather, John Winbanks, in Sydney in 1854; this marriage can’t be found – neither can any trace of these two people since they spontaneously popped up having my gggrandfather, John Norman Winbanks, in 1859 in Victoria. Eliza also claimed to have been born in London and Paris on various certificates. It’s a long shot, but have you any imformation that might help me? It seems they were probably convicts hiding their pasts and, so far, have done very well at it!
    cheers,
    Keryn.

  16. Keithon 07 Oct 2009 at 3:16 pm

    Keryn –

    I’m sorry to say that I have completely struck out on this one! I thought that I had pretty much picked up on all the De La Rue families in Australia, but this Eliza /Elizabeth doesn’t seem to appear at all. I have no Winbanks, and no Veourvances.

    She appears online (along with the Winbanks family) on a Family Tree for The Planner Family at http://www.tribalpages.com/family-tree/plannerclan.

    If I do find out anything, I will post it here.

    – Keith.

  17. Richard de la Rueon 21 Nov 2009 at 1:17 am

    Hi Keith

    Do you have a record of John de la Rue, currently living in Tugan, Queensland? John was in the Royal Navy and volunteered to join the Australian Navy soon after WWll, I think. John must be approaching 90 I reckon and is quite frail. He is my first cousin. I have three sons, Mark, Simon and James. I am the son of Hedley (b.1901), who was the son of William John of Favonius in the Forest parish, Guernsey.

    I see my namesake has already been in touch with you and wonder if he has Guernsey connections, despite his Russian origins. ‘The House that Thomas Built’ has a chapter about the De La Rue company establishing a card printing business for the Tsar.

    Cheers
    Richard de la Rue
    (B.1940)
    St Andrew’s, Guernsey

  18. Keithon 21 Nov 2009 at 8:47 am

    Richard –

    Good to hear from you. OK, so this is another de la Rue that I have not found yet. I only know of very few in Queensland. One descendent of Thomas (the printer) did find his way there some years ago, but later moved to New Zealand.

    From what I have found, it seems that there have been many de la Rues in Forest (La Forêt) over the years, but I have not been able to find connections between them all – or any connection to my family (yet). The family of William de la Rue who came here from Guernsey in 1854 may well be connected to your family.

    – Keith

  19. Gwenda Tormeyon 22 Nov 2009 at 1:03 pm

    Gwendoline Yvonne De La Rue was my Mother. She married Arthur George Thomas on 13 Jan 1940. She passed away on 7 Oct 2000. My Dad Arthur passed away 3 Aug 1987.

  20. Keithon 23 Nov 2009 at 10:02 am

    Gwenda –

    Nice to hear from you! We are third cousins – that is, we have the same great-great-grandparents, Thomas & Tabitha.

    Your great-grandfather was Robert William De La Rue, who was the tenth child of Thomas & Tabitha, and born in Geelong in about 1849. My great-grandfather was James De La Rue, who was the first child of Thomas & Tabitha. He was born in London in 1831, and came out to Australia with Thomas & Tabitha. Eight older children came out on the boat, the two younger children were born here. One of the older children apparently died before the family travelled.

    – Keith.

  21. Aaron Bettson 27 Nov 2009 at 2:44 pm

    G’day,
    I was going thru my family tree and the name James De La Rue popped up but I wanted to check some info on him to see if the following is true…….did he marry a Mary Ann Elizabeth Betts in the 1800’s in Germantown ( now Grovedale ), in Geelong, Victoria? Could you please send me some information on him if the above is true ( I would say this is where the Thorogood connection comes into your family as Mary Ann’s Mother, Edith, was the wife of Roberts Betts but her maiden name was Thorogood ).
    Many thanks for the help with this, it’s very much appreciated,
    Cheers
    Aaron

  22. Keithon 30 Nov 2009 at 11:51 am

    Aaron -

    Thanks for getting in touch.

    James De La Rue was my great-grandfather. On 18 Feb 1858, he marred Sarah Betts at Christ Church, Geelong, Vic, and they lived in Germantown/Grovedale.

    Sarah was the second child of Robert Betts and Edith Thoroughgood – they had 13 in total. Mary Ann Elizabeth was their eighth child.

    I am sending you more info via email.

    – Keith.

  23. Gloriaon 10 Jan 2010 at 4:24 pm

    Hi Keith,

    My grandfather was William Edward Delarue, a saddler who married Josephine Maud Pettit at Narrandera 1901, and my father was William Charles Delarue. We had grown up to believe that our great grandfather was a ship’s captain from France in the 1800’s. Whether that is correct I am not sure but any information would be appreciated. We could be related. My dad served in the Army and the Air Force during WW2 and he did mention that he had a relative in the services in Melbourne and some other one in W.A. who owned a laminex business over there. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Gloria

  24. Simone De La Rue Jameson 22 Jan 2010 at 8:13 pm

    Hi Keith, its been awhile, I was reading through the emails and wow, it is you. I don’t know if you remember me, I’m the daughter of Bruce Robert De La Rue, my grandparents were Oswald and Lorna (Scarlett) De La Rue. Anyway just thought I would touch base and I don’t know if you know dad passed away on 4 Sep 2006. Would be nice to catch up.

  25. Melissaon 01 Feb 2010 at 11:48 am

    Hi Keith,
    My great-grandmother is Emma Kent, my grandfather is Thomas Kent. I would love a copy of your De La Rue family gedcom and a chance to exchange information.
    Regards,
    Melissa

  26. Wendy de la Rueon 10 Apr 2010 at 3:05 pm

    This is fascinating. My father Colin Jack de la Rue known as John, was born in ? Victoria in 1921. He was in the Australian Navy , and in 1948 ? was in Heidileburg ? spelling having his appendix out. My mother a kiwi nurse Aimee Julia Sexton met him there, they subsequently married and moved to NZ about Christmas 1948. Therefore I was conceived in Oz but born in NZ in 1949. Dad retired from the navy in 1966 and moved north to be an engineer in the freezing works. He had been a “Chief ERA” in the navy. His brother George was in the airforce. He also had a sister Addie.Sadly contact between the family was non existent. I understand one of Georges daughters may have done a family tree. ? Gayle or Glynne. Can anyone help?

  27. Keithon 11 Apr 2010 at 1:32 pm

    Wendy –

    Great to hear from you!

    As per the details above, there are two major De La Rue (or de la Rue) families in Victoria; you are descended from William de la Rue of Guernsey. He was your great-grandfather. Your father was the only “Colin De La Rue” in your family that I am aware of. The name appears in our family only twice – my father and my brother.

    More details coming to you via email.

    – Keith

  28. Neyraon 08 Jul 2010 at 10:31 am

    Hi Keith
    Do you know same one of De La Rue family, whose came to Brazil?
    The mother’s of my grandfather name was Irene de La Rue, she was born in Brazil and had just one sister.
    If you know some thing about it, please tell me. It’s very important to me.
    My name is Neyra, i’m from Brazil and i’m so sorry because my english is bad.
    Best wishes,
    Neyra Bastos Estrázulas

  29. Keithon 09 Jul 2010 at 10:57 am

    Neyra -

    I did once hear from a De La Rue in Brazil, but I’m sorry that I have no information on the genealogy of any of the families there. The name also appears in the USA and in Mexico, descended from immigrants from either France or Guernsey.

    If I collect any info, I’ll post it here.

  30. Neyraon 09 Jul 2010 at 3:09 pm

    Thank you!
    Kisses,
    Neyra

  31. Susanon 17 Aug 2010 at 7:04 pm

    Hi
    I am currently conducting a full research on the De La Rue family from Fontenelles, Forest. I will be happy to share any new information. Please email me.
    Thanks.
    Susan

  32. Amandaon 23 Aug 2010 at 12:27 pm

    Hi Keith,

    My Great grandma was Tabitha De La Rue who married James Beattie.
    I have been doing my family history for a few years now. I have got a few old photos, which I think were Tabitha’s. Alot of people I do not know.
    I hope we are able to help each other out with information.

    Regards
    Amanda

  33. Susan de la Rueon 07 Sep 2010 at 2:37 pm

    Hi Keith,

    Think I’ve spoken to you a couple of years ago, My Father is Wayne de la Rue (M Peggy Towle) decended from William (Bill) de la Rue and Eileen Moras. We’re decendents of thomas and tabitha.

    I would like to know if you have any info on the de la Rue family reunion mum and I would like to attend if there are any.

    Cheers
    Susan

  34. Keithon 17 Sep 2010 at 12:47 pm

    Gloria –

    A belated reply!

    Your Delarue ancestors seem to be separate to mine, so far as I can go back – mine came out from England, and although the name is French, I have not yet found our connection back to France.

    Your great-grandfather was Charles Andrew Delarue, of Colmar, Alsace, France – see the note on the page above.

    Your grandfather William Edward was born in 1877 at Broughton in NSW, and died at Auburn NSW in 1929. He married Josephine Maud Pettit on 16 July 1901. So far as I know, they had 5 children.

    You can view your father’s war service record online at the National Archives of Australia. I’m not aware of any relatives of his that served in the forces – you could search for their names as well. Certainly some of my relatives were there!

    Regarding the Laminex connection – as above, the De La Rue company in England, currently a secure printing company, was started by Thomas De La Rue from Guernsey. They did dabble in a few other lines of business over the years, one of which was Formica, producing products similar to Laminex. This was in the 1950s. They moved out of that business some time later. You can see a bit about the company history on their web site here (although this summary doesn’t mention the Formica connection).

    Hope this helps a little!

  35. Keithon 17 Sep 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Susan –

    Nice to hear from you again!

    I haven’t heard about any family reunions – but if there are any happening, I would love to get involved! If anyone can send me any info, I can also publicise it here.

    – Keith.

  36. Keithon 17 Sep 2010 at 1:50 pm

    Amanda –

    Your father is my second cousin – which makes you (technically) my second cousin once removed. Tabitha’s father (your great-great grandfather) was James De La Rue; my great grandfather. I am descended from Tabitha’s brother, another James.

    If you would like to get copies of photos to me, I can see who I can identify. I have some photos, but not a lot of them are scanned in yet.

  37. Dion 23 Sep 2010 at 7:55 pm

    Hi Keith

    I have been doing the famly history for some time. I am the great granddaughter of Jemima De La Rue and George Baker. Woudl love to speak with you about your information.

  38. mitzion 17 Oct 2010 at 2:32 am

    hola mi nombre es mitzi solis la rue, y me intereso mucho el ver este articulo…
    mi mama se llama sandra la rue. su padre era johny la rue el era de indianapolis y era militar.
    por ciertas cosas de la vida mi abuela que era mexicana se trajo a vivir a mi madre y a mi tia para mexico cuando ellas eran apenas unas niñas.

    —————

    Hello, my name is Mitzi Solis La rue, and I am very interested to see this article … My mother’s name is Sandra La rue. Her father was Johny La rue, who was from Indianapolis and was in the military. Events in life brought my Mexican grandmother to live with my mother and my aunt in Mexico when they were just little girls.

  39. Keithon 26 Oct 2010 at 1:19 pm

    Mitzi –

    I can’t be sure that your comment is genuine, as you have supplied an email address that does not match your name. I have provided an English translation of your post above.

    I’m afraid that I can’t tell you anything about the family name “La rue”. Some sources claim that it is related to De La Rue, but I have not yet found any connections.

    You also left another comment on the Contact page of this blog, which appears to ask for a copy of a document. As there are no documents on that page, I am not sure what you are asking for here. Accordingly, I am not publishing that comment.

    – Keith

  40. Margareton 31 Oct 2010 at 2:50 pm

    Hi Keith & other De La Rues,

    I’m George and Jemima Baker’s great -grandchild. I’m compiling family history for uncles and descendants use.

    Can anyone email photos of Thomas and Tabitha De La Rue, Sarah Betts and James De La Rue or any of their children, plus Jemima and George Baker and any of their family?

    Any info to capture the essence of the De La Rues lives would be appreciated.

    Cheers,
    Margaret

  41. Margareton 08 Nov 2010 at 10:11 am

    Hi Keith,

    It’s Margaret again.

    For moderation purposes my lineage is:
    James and Sarah De La Rue, nee Betts;
    Their 5th child, Jemima, married George Baker;
    Their daughter Edith Baker married Thomas Smith;
    Their son Arthur, is my father.

    Aiming to locate photos or illustrations to acknowledge and record their history. Is it possible to gather together photos of Thomas & Tabitha, each of their children and possibly some or all of their grandchildren? Very difficult but would be great.

    Perhaps in this electronic age, descendants could make available whatever they have for sharing purposes.

    Regards,
    Margaret

  42. Jennifer Anastasion 13 Nov 2010 at 6:42 pm

    Hi Keith –

    I spoke with you a few years ago about a possible connection between our families Delarue. I am now wondering whether there is actaully a link between my branch of the family back to your G-G-grandfather Thomas, through his son Daniel (aged 1 year at the time of arrival in Australia) and my grandfather Charles (whose father was indeed a Daniel and the dates would be about right). If this plays out then the connection with the William / Louisa line at Eldorado may be a geographical coincidence – I wonder!!!. The main link to the Benalla area for my family was though my grandmothers family (Gibbs). If I could have a copy of the Eldorado line as well please – I am pretty sure that you sent it to me once before but that was a couple of computers ago. Thanks Jenny Anastasi (nee Delarue, of course!)

  43. Jennifer Anastasion 13 Nov 2010 at 7:06 pm

    Hi Keith – yes I have made the link. My grandfather Charles William de la Rue b.Terang 1878 is the son of Daniel Charles b 1848 (Surrey) – son of Thomas. He was the 1 year old infant when they arrived in Geelong. So there is a whole branch of info that needs to be attached to the Thomas-Tabitha line. If you send me the details that you do have for that line I will check them for accuracy and, of course, there have been a few more additions since we last spoke. Jenny Anastasi

  44. Neyraon 18 Nov 2010 at 8:11 am

    Hi Keith,
    Please, how can I translate De La Rue into english and portuguese???
    Thanks.
    Neyra.

  45. Keithon 18 Nov 2010 at 4:27 pm

    Jenny – Yes, that all checks out. The proximity to the El Dorado de la Rues is apparently purely coincidental. We are third cousins. Details are on the way, in reply to your email message.

  46. Keithon 18 Nov 2010 at 4:33 pm

    Neyra –

    “De la rue” translates into English as “of the street” or “of the road”. I have no expertise in the Portuguese language, but Google translates it as “da rua” or simply “rua”.

    As a surname, I have only ever seen it used in the original French (although the capitalisation changes, and it is often compressed into a single word). There are De La Rues in England, USA, Mexico, Brazil and other countries.

  47. Neyraon 20 Nov 2010 at 6:44 am

    Dear Keith
    My great-grandmother said that her ancestors were French nobles and had a coat with a sprig of rue (ramo de arruda in portuguese) and that De La Rue meant “rue.” (arruda).
    I resorted to a dictionary and found that rue (arruda) has also been translated as “Rue”.
    Have you heard about this?
    Thank you for your attention.
    Kisses
    Neyra.

  48. Keithon 23 Nov 2010 at 11:19 am

    The plant Rue (Ruta) is “a genus of strongly scented evergreen subshrubs 20–60 cm tall, in the family Rutaceae, native to the Mediterranean region, Macaronesia and southwest Asia” (Wikipedia). It bears yellow flowers.

    I haven’t heard of any connection between the name De La Rue and this plant. For this to be the case, then the name of the plant would need to also be “rue” in French; I do not think that this is the case.

    There have been suggestions that the name De La Rue has been derived from the name “Rue”, but this is usually in reference to the French meaning of “road”.

    Another source refers to an English derivation coming from the word “rewe”, meaning a row of houses (thus inferring a road). I am not convinced that this one has much merit.

    As to the nobility of De La Rue – this is another puzzle I do not yet have a complete solution to!

  49. Neyraon 24 Nov 2010 at 3:43 am

    Thanks Keith!
    Kisses
    Neyra.

  50. Keithon 24 Nov 2010 at 2:02 pm

    Margaret –

    Thanks for your comments!

    We are second cousins once removed – your father Arthur was my second cousin.

    I have uploaded the few relevant photos that I do have – see above. For most of these, you can click on the photo for a larger version.

    I would be very happy to share other details – and I am more than happy for other family members to share their photos and other details via this site.

    – Keith

  51. Michael DeLaRueon 04 Dec 2010 at 10:07 pm

    Hi Keith,
    Found this on the net the other night and thought you might be interested.
    http://www.guernsey-society.org.uk/donkipedia/index.php5?title=Descendents_of_Eleazar_de_la_Rue_(1697) . Looks like it may be my side of the chart. Cheers Michael

  52. Keithon 06 Dec 2010 at 10:23 am

    Michael –

    Very interesting. There seems to be a few inconsistencies on that page, which I will endeavour to find out more about. What is very interesting is that they have made a connection between your ancestor William de la Rue and Thomas de la Rue, the printer. I’m not convinced that this is correct yet, but it would be excellent if they have found this “missing link”!

  53. Gwenda Tormeyon 06 Dec 2010 at 4:19 pm

    Hi Keith,
    Thanks for the Photos, they are wonderful.
    It’s great to put a face to a name
    Thanks so much.
    Gwenda.

  54. Neyraon 24 Dec 2010 at 10:57 am

    Hi Keith,

    Franz Lothar de la Rue (1824-1871) was born in Frankfurt, a descendant of a French family who had emigrated to Germany due to religious persecution. He came to Brazil. Diehl Wilhelmine married, had seven children, one of whom was called Lothar de la Rue, (my great great grandfather). A street perpetuates his name in Taquara market, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil.

    Kisses and a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

    Neyra

  55. Keithon 24 Dec 2010 at 1:38 pm

    Neyra –

    Thanks again for the info. This means that Franz Lothar’s family were Huguenots – French protestants, and thus potentially related to one of the Guernsey families.

    -Keith

  56. Neyraon 26 Dec 2010 at 5:13 am

    I don’t know. I’d love to have more information. Assembling this puzzle. But I’m not getting more information. Thank you.

    Kisses Neyra

  57. Michael DeLaRueon 05 Jan 2011 at 9:27 pm

    Hi Keith, Just found some more http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.britisles.channelislands.gsy.general/59.2/mb.ashx
    Still leaves lots of holes though.
    All the best for the new year.
    Cheers Michael

  58. Neyraon 07 Jan 2011 at 9:03 am

    Please disregard the above post.
    I do not know. I’m not getting more information.
    Kisses,
    Neyra.

  59. Alanon 10 Jan 2011 at 1:11 pm

    Hi Keith,

    I understand that you have previously discussed the El Dorado De La Rue’s with my father in law (Frank). I note that you have records of 150+ Descendents of William Henry who along with his brothers were the first of the “El Dorado” De La Rue’s. I would be interested in obtaining and comparing this information with that I have accumulated and it is mostly likely that I can add some of the more recent ’spouses’. I would also like to loop in with any responses that you and Michael have (refer early December posts) re the ‘new’ link of William and Thomas …. like you I see some inconsistencies in this data!

    Regards

  60. Keithon 19 Jan 2011 at 9:52 am

    Michael –

    Thanks for that – interesting. Most of the info in that post matches what I have on that family. Some of the earlier parts of it still seem a bit cloudy from the data I have seen, and she has completely dropped the ball on the last four names. They are all still children of Eleazar and Rachel – included in the correctly-stated total of 11. They couldn’t be Thomas’s children, as he was too young at the time. Thomas had 7 children, the first being the famous Warren De La Rue.

    Also, the reference to Isaac de Lisle as a Baronet is odd. The first Baronet De La Rue was Sir Thomas Andros, Warren’s son, created 17 Jun 1898. See the full list on Wikipedia here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_La_Rue_Baronets

    This again seems to only cover one of the Guernsey De La Rue families – no mention of the William who came to Australia or his family. I am I will have to read the other posts in that thread and follow up when I have time!

    – Keith.

  61. Keithon 18 Feb 2011 at 11:34 am

    Alan –

    Nice to hear from you!

    I have emailed a response to you – happy to send the info.

    I haven’t heard any more about the Guernsey data, but I’m sure that they have slipped. As per the section on ‘The name “De La Rue”’ above, it seems that there may be two quite distinct families on Guernsey – one dating back to the Vikings, and one the more recent Huguenots arrivals. I suspect that the family of Thomas De La Rue the printer may be linked to the Vikings, and your family to the more recent Huguenots. Of course this is far from certain!

    – Keith

  62. Stephanie Gearon 14 Mar 2011 at 10:41 am

    Hi Keith,
    I’m chasing more information about my husband’s ancestors, Thomas and Tabitha De La Rue, though I have Thomas’ name recorded as Robert Thomas!
    He’s related through their granddaughter Alice Elizabeth b.1880
    Regards,
    Stephanie.
    Melbourne, Vic.

  63. Garry de la Rueon 16 Apr 2011 at 7:47 am

    Hi Keith.

    I am one of a bunch of de la Rue’s resident in South Africa. Family stories indicate that we are related to Thomas de la Rue (Printer) who made their way to RSA via Mauritius. I have birth certificates going back to the early 1800’s and judging from what I have seen and read, there appears to be a lot of de la Rue’s around. It would be interesting to find out the family connection.

    Regards

    Garry de la Rue
    Durban, South Africa

  64. Keithon 17 Apr 2011 at 7:56 pm

    Garry –

    Nice to hear from you. I have not as yet found any connections to Africa. Do you have information on your ancestors back to England? If so, I should be able to see what the connection is.

    - Keith.

  65. kerry campion jaegeron 20 Apr 2011 at 7:39 pm

    Hi, i,m trying to locate a Robyn Althea Campion who married a James Delarue in 1957, regards Kerry

  66. Keithon 21 Apr 2011 at 10:03 am

    Kerry –

    Sorry – I can’t help you with that one at all. I have no record of the name Campion, and I don’t even seem to have a James of the right age.

    By the way – for any readers wanting to locate living people: if I can locate someone, I may be able to pass on a message, but it is my policy to never pass on contact details without permission. My interest is more in genealogy.

    – Keith

  67. Keithon 23 Apr 2011 at 6:16 pm

    Stephanie – Re your message of 14 March –

    I have Alice Elizabeth in my records – she married Walter Gear in 1905. She was my grandfather’s first cousin. (There was another Alice born in the same year – her first cousin. This has led to some confusion.)

    I only have information on four daughters of Alice and Walter, and virtually no other info on this family. So I would be very glad to get any other info you have, to see how we are connected.

    More information coming via email.

  68. David Backwellon 20 May 2011 at 11:01 am

    Hello Keith. I’m wondering if you are aware of any connection between your family and my gggrandmother born Mary Ann de la Rue daughter of Mary/Maria (nee Mack) and Jean/John de la Rue. Mary Ann was born 20-4-1826 in St Peters Port, Guernsey, married whitesmith Ebenezer Backwell 27-10-1849 and emigrated to Australia via the ‘Bombay’ in 1852 eventually settling in Geelong in 1857 and dying there 17-9-1883. I’ve previously noted the names of Thomas and Tabitha de la Rue in the course of my research and, although originating from different locations, have been curious to know if it was more than coincidence that both couples eventually landed in the Geelong district. Any ideas?

  69. Keithon 20 May 2011 at 3:58 pm

    David –

    Afraid I can’t find this connection at all. There is no known connection (yet) between my family and the Guernsey de la Rues; and even there, most of both the Guernsey families I am aware of seem to be more around Forest rather than St. Peter Port. Do you know what part of Geelong they lived in? With the family already going by the name of Backwell, the connection is not one that I have ever picked up.

    – Keith.

  70. David Backwellon 20 May 2011 at 11:11 pm

    Upon their arrival in Melbourne, Mary Ann and her husband Ebenezer Backwell lived in Collingwood and Richmond between 1852 and 1857. They moved to Villamanta Street West Geelong – then known as Little Scotland – in 1857 ultimately settlling in Clarendon Street, Chilwell about 1858.

    Mary Ann’s father, Jean or John, is cited as a mariner on the former’s death registration and his father was also named Jean. I’ve learned that Mary Ann was the eldest of four children and that her siblings were John Henry b29-6-1828, Julian Douglas b30-10-1830, and Marthe Judith b29-9 1832. I received this information from Maria Van der Tang, a researcher for Jersey/Guernsey historical society.

    The name de la Rue is used once, as far as I am aware , as a second name for a grandson, Percy William de la Rue Backwell (1890-1967) son of William Henry Backwell (1863-1948).

    That’s about all I know so far. I’ve noticed that our branch of the family have been included in some venerable sounding genealogy on a site called Donkeypedia, but I’m very disinclined to believe this as it doesn’t match with the information I’ve noted on Mary Ann’s death registration and this latter data has been supported by the Guernsey historical society.

    Perhaps de la Rue is a more common name than I thought and there’s no link! Anyway Keith, thanks for your time and care.

    - David

  71. Neil Nunnon 29 Jun 2011 at 10:17 am

    Hi Keith\n\nAs you are more than likely aware better than I, sometimes it takes quite a while to find certain roads to follow as far as family history research is concerned.\nHaving said that however, I don’t know why it has taken so long to find you.\nWe are definitely related, 3rd cousins I believe. Your 3G grandfather Joseph Thorogood is my 4G grandfather. It is probably only because I am doing my submissions with Founders & Suvivors that I finally started doing some deeper research into my convicts.\nThanks in large to you, I am now desperately trying to track a copy of JF Hill’s ‘The Thurrowgood Story’. Have sent an email to the Colac Society to see if they still have any copies and am currently awaiting their reply.\nIf there is anything I can send you from my line of the Tree, please let me know.\nPlease feel free to email me direct (so as I don’t miss anything).\n\nRegards\nNeil

  72. Neil Nunnon 29 Jun 2011 at 10:44 am

    Hi again Keith, sorry to bother you.\nIt just occurred to me after reading all the emails sent to you, I should have asked if it would be alright to say to those who are researching Thorogoods, Betts etc that they are quite welcome to contact me.\nI suppose for security reasons, they should get my email address through you, rather than putting it out there publicly.\nWould that be too much to ask?\n\nCheers\nNeil

  73. Robyn Websteron 15 Nov 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Hi Keith,
    We have a Sarah De La Rue, possibly from Parrap, Victoria, married to John Robert Moloney. John and Sarah married in 1906, they had a daughter Flo Hazel in 1908. John was killed in the first world war and is buried in the Hursley Cemetery in England. Wondering if Sarah is connected to your family and who her parents were if this is the case. Thanks any information greatly appreciated. Cheers, Robyn

  74. Keithon 16 Nov 2011 at 9:34 am

    Robyn –

    Yes, Sarah was one of our family. Email following with details.

    – Keith.

  75. Delon 29 Nov 2011 at 7:02 pm

    Hi Keith, I’m looking for a James Delarue who married Robyn Campion in 1956 in Richmond, N.S.W. Robyn was born about 1936. Have you come across this family at all? I’m related to them and have wanted to make contact for my own family tree.

  76. Keithon 29 Nov 2011 at 8:02 pm

    Del –

    You have me completely stumped on that one. I do know of some De La Rues in NSW, but I don’t have any records of them in Richmond, and I have no Campions at all. Any further info on the De La Rue side may help.

    – Keith.

  77. Leanne De La Rueon 20 Feb 2012 at 9:32 pm

    Hello Keith

    Im a descendant of the late William De La Rue and Louisa Augusta Borchers of El Dorado, Vic.
    Just thought i would put my stamp on your page as there is still De La rue`s in El Dorado. :-)

    Leanne

  78. Keithon 21 Feb 2012 at 6:36 am

    Leanne –

    Nice to hear from you. If you would like more info on your family, feel free to contact me!

    – Keith

  79. Lukeon 29 Aug 2012 at 11:56 pm

    hey keith. i think i miiight be related to the delarue mob :P
    i happen to be looking around my house the other day when i came across a book.. and inside was a list of names & DOB, all hand written, the style of writting was unfamiliar to me.. but i know that this book has been pasted down quite a few generations.. when the first name on the list is: James DeLaRue – 1831, then it continues with jane, william, mary maria, jamima (i think), jabitha or tabitha.. theres also thomas, daniel charles & finally robert Delarue. i think Robert might be my great-grandfather? P.S: the very last line is written using a different pen.. not sure about the time difference to the rest of the list, but i can sorta make it out: Roberts name is underlined and underneath it, it says: was H.a (wads/dads) father? im well nd truely confuzzed..
    any explanation would be much appreciated.
    cheers,
    Luke

  80. Keithon 04 Dec 2012 at 3:44 pm

    Luke –

    Thanks for your comment. Yes, that is definitely my family – that’s a list of Thomas & Tabitha’s children in date order. I have updated the web page (see above) to include all the records I have of the family, and it seems that this list is missing Martha, who must have died in England before they came out to Australia.

    Oddly, it is also missing the youngest, John. If it was written before he was born, that would place it as earlier than 1852.

    I have not seen that list before – would be great to get a copy of it. I will need a little more info on your family to be certain of where to place you – separate email following.

  81. samantha crosson 08 Jun 2013 at 10:03 am

    Hi, i’m researching the old Holy Cross cemetary gravestones in Whitwick and i have found the grave of a William De-La-Rue who died july 17th 1886 aged 77yrs also his wife Ann who died june 2nd 1908 aged 81yrs and also Ursula their daughter who died febuary 27th [poss 1841] aged 24yrs. thought you may want this information for your records.

  82. Keithon 11 Jun 2013 at 2:04 pm

    Samantha –

    Thanks for the info! Certainly would seem to be one of my family, but I can’t make the connection at the moment. Duly filed, and hopefully one day I will put together some more of this puzzle!

    – Keith

  83. David De La Rueon 13 Aug 2013 at 12:45 pm

    Hello,
    I am hoping you will be able (or willing) to assist me in finding my family history. My fathers name is Howard William Riely De La Rue, born and raised in Highland Park Illinios in 1937 or 38. His mother was Marion Louise Garling and that’s about as far back as I can go up that branch. I know nothing of his father other than they were married for at least a short period of time, nothing else is ever mentioned. That side of the family and I are not on speaking terms and that will probably not change. Any assistance you can give me in filling in my line or possible connections would be greatly appreciated.

    Dave

  84. Keithon 14 Aug 2013 at 10:00 am

    Dave -

    I wish that I could offer you something to help with this, but I’m afraid that I have no info on any USA connections. If anyone with info would like to share it, I would be happy to pass it on.

    – Keith

  85. Barbara Goughon 07 Oct 2013 at 9:39 am

    Hello Keith,

    My name is Barbara Elizabeth Gough, I am the great grand daughter of Elizabeth Skien Pugh and David Pugh. My mother was the grand daughter of Elizabeth Skene Pugh and David Pugh. Her parents were William Thomas Donnelly and Elizabeth Skene Pugh. David Pugh Divorced my great grandmother and from there I do not have any further information of him. I have a copy from the Argus 27/11/1908 re their divorce proceedings. I will send it to you if it is of any interest to you.

    Regards

    Barbara

  86. Keithon 07 Oct 2013 at 3:18 pm

    Barbara – Thanks for getting in touch! David Pugh remarried Mary Jane Westwood, who was my great-aunt. I have a fair bit of detail on the Westwood family, and some photos. There will be some of the Pugh family in these. More details to follow by email. – Keith.

  87. Kerri haslem ( Beattie)on 13 Jan 2014 at 9:09 pm

    Hi Keith.
    I believe we are related. James Beattie and Tabitha DeLa Rue were my great grandparents. I would love to see any info and photos you have of them. I have a few including some copies of maps of where their saw mills were in the colac otway area. I also have a second place prize card and ribbon that James won in 1916 with his horse given to me by my grandfather Albert Beattie ( james and Tabs son).
    Would love to hear from you and compare info. I also have photos of their graves in Colac that I went and visited recently.

  88. Keithon 14 Jan 2014 at 9:19 am

    Kerri -

    Great to hear from you! I don’t have anything in the way of photos of the Beattie family, but I do have family history info. Will be in touch via email. We are separated by one generation – your parents are my second cousins.

    – Keith.

  89. Julianon 31 May 2014 at 10:00 am

    Hi Thanks for your interesting site. Just thought I would let you know I have a gold pocket watch from 1914, engraved ‘Thomas Alexander de la Rue, from Evelyn, his godfather and uncle’; the uncle was “Sir Evelyn Andros de la Rue, 2nd Bt. who was born on 5 October 1879. He was the son of Sir Thomas Andros de la Rue, 1st Bt. and Emily Maria Speed. He married Mary Violet Francklin, daughter of John Liell Francklin, on 17 February 1903. He died on 30 November 1950 at age 71.  Sir Evelyn Andros de la Rue, 2nd Bt. succeeded to the title of 2nd Baronet de la Rue, of Cadogan Square, Chelsea, London [U.K., 1898] on 10 April 1911. He gained the rank of Captain in the service of the Royal East Kent Yeomanry. He gained the rank of Captain in the service of the Royal Air Force. He held the office of Justice of the Peace (J.P.) for Hertfordshire.” (Taken from Burke’s Peerage). This Thomas b 1913 is the one who came to NZ in the 1930s.

  90. Keithon 31 May 2014 at 10:27 pm

    Julian -

    Thanks for the info – a nice watch to have! Yes, the baronetcy was created for the family of Thomas De La Rue (the printer from Guernsey), in recognition of their contribution to British industry.

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