Comments on: Twitter and the challenge of openness http://delarue.net/blog/2009/06/twitter-and-openness/ …acting on knowledge, communication and learning Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:42:39 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Keith http://delarue.net/blog/2009/06/twitter-and-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-52732 Keith Sun, 14 Jun 2009 03:32:53 +0000 http://delarue.net/blog/2009/06/twitter-and-openness/#comment-52732 Luke - Thanks. The video makes some interesting points about Twitter in the classroom. Particularly that Twitter is a way for students who may not be comfortable speaking out in public to still be able to share their thoughts. The same certainly goes for conferences, where there is usually less opportunity for verbal discussion.  - Keith Luke -

Thanks. The video makes some interesting points about Twitter in the classroom. Particularly that Twitter is a way for students who may not be comfortable speaking out in public to still be able to share their thoughts. The same certainly goes for conferences, where there is usually less opportunity for verbal discussion.

 - Keith

]]> By: Luke Grange http://delarue.net/blog/2009/06/twitter-and-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-52729 Luke Grange Sun, 14 Jun 2009 02:42:11 +0000 http://delarue.net/blog/2009/06/twitter-and-openness/#comment-52729 Great post, Keith. To Laurel's point I can see the distractive effect Twitter could have if a certain ground breaking point made by the presenter sent all heads down and got fingers typing. I guess the note taking with a pen isn't perceived as broadcasting in real time and as such less intimidating at this point in time. I remember back in the late nineties during meetings, I found the tapping sound of stylus on PDA screen to be quite distracting. What is socially acceptable and who makes the rules? As far as learning environments and Twitter I found the “Twitter Experiment” done by Dr. Rankin, professor of History at UT Dallas to be really interesting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WPVWDkF7U8 It fits in well with your point about "shining a new light into places that some thought were in the dark" Great post, Keith. To Laurel’s point I can see the distractive effect Twitter could have if a certain ground breaking point made by the presenter sent all heads down and got fingers typing. I guess the note taking with a pen isn’t perceived as broadcasting in real time and as such less intimidating at this point in time.

I remember back in the late nineties during meetings, I found the tapping sound of stylus on PDA screen to be quite distracting. What is socially acceptable and who makes the rules?

As far as learning environments and Twitter I found the “Twitter Experiment” done by Dr. Rankin, professor of History at UT Dallas to be really interesting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WPVWDkF7U8 It fits in well with your point about “shining a new light into places that some thought were in the dark”

]]> By: Keith http://delarue.net/blog/2009/06/twitter-and-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-51524 Keith Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:30:25 +0000 http://delarue.net/blog/2009/06/twitter-and-openness/#comment-51524 Laurel - Great case example - thanks! That does ring a bell, but I can't find it in a quick Google. (How long before anybody says they were "Binging" for something on the web? Hmm - that doesn't really work, does it?) Yep, the audience is listening. And the audience is a whole lot bigger than you think... - Keith. Laurel –

Great case example – thanks! That does ring a bell, but I can’t find it in a quick Google. (How long before anybody says they were “Binging” for something on the web? Hmm – that doesn’t really work, does it?) Yep, the audience is listening. And the audience is a whole lot bigger than you think…

– Keith.

]]> By: Laurel Papworth http://delarue.net/blog/2009/06/twitter-and-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-51504 Laurel Papworth Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:08:21 +0000 http://delarue.net/blog/2009/06/twitter-and-openness/#comment-51504 Do you remember the CEO (I forget the company name) who got up at a conference and complained that the market was against him and his product, that the press didn't give him any attention, that the competitors were unfair and basically moaned? In the audience were Scoble and Kawasaki and others, and they started tweeting what a jerk this CEO was... his career and company were dead before he left the podium and he didn't even know it. Real time, live blogging can make or break presenters. Scared now? :P Do you remember the CEO (I forget the company name) who got up at a conference and complained that the market was against him and his product, that the press didn’t give him any attention, that the competitors were unfair and basically moaned?
In the audience were Scoble and Kawasaki and others, and they started tweeting what a jerk this CEO was… his career and company were dead before he left the podium and he didn’t even know it.
Real time, live blogging can make or break presenters. Scared now? :P

]]> By: Keith http://delarue.net/blog/2009/06/twitter-and-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-51489 Keith Wed, 10 Jun 2009 06:39:54 +0000 http://delarue.net/blog/2009/06/twitter-and-openness/#comment-51489 Lance - Twitter in church! Whatever will they think of next... :-) I expect that people may feel a little more constrained - but to get all the relevant tweets on a display, you would need to be using a hashtag; so if you didn't want your tweet on display, you would just not use the hashtag. - Keith Lance –

Twitter in church! Whatever will they think of next… :-)

I expect that people may feel a little more constrained – but to get all the relevant tweets on a display, you would need to be using a hashtag; so if you didn’t want your tweet on display, you would just not use the hashtag.

– Keith

]]> By: Lance http://delarue.net/blog/2009/06/twitter-and-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-51488 Lance Wed, 10 Jun 2009 06:19:30 +0000 http://delarue.net/blog/2009/06/twitter-and-openness/#comment-51488 I was reading in Time the other day about churches embracing Twitter in their services. http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1895463,00.html The article makes some similar points. I think Twitter would be much better suited to the conference setting, but I can see the value in both. I might suggest it to my church leadership... Would you feel less comfortable tweeting in church? I was reading in Time the other day about churches embracing Twitter in their services.

http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1895463,00.html

The article makes some similar points. I think Twitter would be much better suited to the conference setting, but I can see the value in both. I might suggest it to my church leadership…

Would you feel less comfortable tweeting in church?

]]> By: Keith http://delarue.net/blog/2009/06/twitter-and-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-50574 Keith Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:38:36 +0000 http://delarue.net/blog/2009/06/twitter-and-openness/#comment-50574 Enrico - Thanks for that! I am of the opinion that just getting in and tweeting is a far better way of understanding the medium than all of the "how to tweet" guides put together... - Keith Enrico -

Thanks for that! I am of the opinion that just getting in and tweeting is a far better way of understanding the medium than all of the “how to tweet” guides put together…

– Keith

]]> By: Keith http://delarue.net/blog/2009/06/twitter-and-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-50573 Keith Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:33:07 +0000 http://delarue.net/blog/2009/06/twitter-and-openness/#comment-50573 Tony - Thanks for your thoughts - a very real-time response! - Keith Tony -

Thanks for your thoughts – a very real-time response!

– Keith

]]> By: Enrico Varella http://delarue.net/blog/2009/06/twitter-and-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-50402 Enrico Varella Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:35:59 +0000 http://delarue.net/blog/2009/06/twitter-and-openness/#comment-50402 Enlightening essay, Keith. As someone relatively new to this app (now I'm *talking cock*), I am beginning to appreciate it through your tweets and re-tweets. I think that tweets enhance one's competency in precis writing: brevity, succinctness and relevance. I have already linked your essay on my blog. Cheers. Enlightening essay, Keith. As someone relatively new to this app (now I’m *talking cock*), I am beginning to appreciate it through your tweets and re-tweets. I think that tweets enhance one’s competency in precis writing: brevity, succinctness and relevance.

I have already linked your essay on my blog. Cheers.

]]> By: Tony Hollingsworth http://delarue.net/blog/2009/06/twitter-and-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-50348 Tony Hollingsworth Mon, 08 Jun 2009 13:42:27 +0000 http://delarue.net/blog/2009/06/twitter-and-openness/#comment-50348 Fantastic post Keith and I have read Olivia's comments before so it was great to get your perspective. I often "live tweet" at conferences and events and it only serves to heighten the experience - in terms of greater learning, collaboration and knowledge sharing. It is analagous to, as you say, the old practice of "note taking" and "talking about it later" with the major differences including the immediacy of the information and the extended reach of the conversation. For example, as I write this I am enjoying the feedback of attendees in a conference in Boston, USA, where an IBM executive is speaking about "social media in the marketing mix" - http://twitter.com/#search?q=mpb2b My point being I am able to participate in learning and collaboration thanks to this live-tweeting happening. I could never have imagined this being so easy to do, and its fantastic. It would not surprise me at all if event-organisers were unaware this is happening - hence the evidence you see of it being "frowned upon" - but I am sure this is simply due to the lack of understanding of this technology. Cheers Tony Fantastic post Keith and I have read Olivia’s comments before so it was great to get your perspective. I often “live tweet” at conferences and events and it only serves to heighten the experience – in terms of greater learning, collaboration and knowledge sharing.

It is analagous to, as you say, the old practice of “note taking” and “talking about it later” with the major differences including the immediacy of the information and the extended reach of the conversation. For example, as I write this I am enjoying the feedback of attendees in a conference in Boston, USA, where an IBM executive is speaking about “social media in the marketing mix” – http://twitter.com/#search?q=mpb2b

My point being I am able to participate in learning and collaboration thanks to this live-tweeting happening. I could never have imagined this being so easy to do, and its fantastic. It would not surprise me at all if event-organisers were unaware this is happening – hence the evidence you see of it being “frowned upon” – but I am sure this is simply due to the lack of understanding of this technology.

Cheers
Tony

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