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	<title>Comments on: The Knowledge Pyramid?</title>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;d take a lot of it to make a man laugh&#8230; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Knowledge Pyramid revisited</title>
		<link>http://delarue.net/blog/2007/05/the-knowledge-pyramid/comment-page-1/#comment-4189</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;d take a lot of it to make a man laugh&#8230; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Knowledge Pyramid revisited</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 04:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There has been a new discussion on the supposed data-info-knowledge hierarchy on actKM.  Patrick Lambe has summarised my thoughts: &#8220;The DIK pyramid is a nasty red herring and needs exploding.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There has been a new discussion on the supposed data-info-knowledge hierarchy on actKM.  Patrick Lambe has summarised my thoughts: &#8220;The DIK pyramid is a nasty red herring and needs exploding.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://delarue.net/blog/2007/05/the-knowledge-pyramid/comment-page-1/#comment-1431</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 09:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bong -
Thanks for your comment. I must say that I am not familiar with Edward Hampton, nor can I find him on Wikipedia. It seems that he supports the IT view of data as having no context. What I have been reading on actKM is that this is not the view of data normally held in other fields. In scientific research, data is the result of observation, and it thus includes context - it is not meaningless.

 

Regardless of this, though, the main point of my post still stands. I have come to see any of these linear models as at least meaningless, and at worst misleading. The reference to &quot;points&quot; in my proposed model is oddly coincidental with your Hampton quote. My intention with this model was to highlight my position that such models are meaningless! (Incidentally, Hampton is only referring to data - he is not proposing a linear model.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bong -<br />
Thanks for your comment. I must say that I am not familiar with Edward Hampton, nor can I find him on Wikipedia. It seems that he supports the IT view of data as having no context. What I have been reading on actKM is that this is not the view of data normally held in other fields. In scientific research, data is the result of observation, and it thus includes context &#8211; it is not meaningless.</p>
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<p>Regardless of this, though, the main point of my post still stands. I have come to see any of these linear models as at least meaningless, and at worst misleading. The reference to &#8220;points&#8221; in my proposed model is oddly coincidental with your Hampton quote. My intention with this model was to highlight my position that such models are meaningless! (Incidentally, Hampton is only referring to data &#8211; he is not proposing a linear model.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bong</title>
		<link>http://delarue.net/blog/2007/05/the-knowledge-pyramid/comment-page-1/#comment-1429</link>
		<dc:creator>Bong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 19:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith,

I found you post in Technorati&#039;s watchlist. I thought of giving comments. When you said, &quot;To me, knowledge by any (useful) definition has a whole range of facets...&quot; I thought of viewing it something like this: Data (subject), information (learning), knowledge (understanding), wisdom (meaning). That is, the data is driven by meaning for us to learn from it, understand it, and put it into practice. Think of the construct as pattern, a line. Edward Hampton said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Data is simply a point of reality. By itself, it has no meaning. Think of a dot or a point. What does the dot or point tell us. Nothing. Not until we are able to make a &#039;line&#039;, i.e. add another &#039;point&#039; can pattern start to develop.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
As I view it, we start to develop a line from a point when we ask who, why, when, where, what, and how; and see bits of thought forms. Here the data is transformed into information. We tried to understand this information, know its meaning, and do the likely action. What is your stand on this?

Kind regards,

Bong</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith,</p>
<p>I found you post in Technorati&#8217;s watchlist. I thought of giving comments. When you said, &#8220;To me, knowledge by any (useful) definition has a whole range of facets&#8230;&#8221; I thought of viewing it something like this: Data (subject), information (learning), knowledge (understanding), wisdom (meaning). That is, the data is driven by meaning for us to learn from it, understand it, and put it into practice. Think of the construct as pattern, a line. Edward Hampton said:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Data is simply a point of reality. By itself, it has no meaning. Think of a dot or a point. What does the dot or point tell us. Nothing. Not until we are able to make a &#8216;line&#8217;, i.e. add another &#8216;point&#8217; can pattern start to develop.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>As I view it, we start to develop a line from a point when we ask who, why, when, where, what, and how; and see bits of thought forms. Here the data is transformed into information. We tried to understand this information, know its meaning, and do the likely action. What is your stand on this?</p>
<p>Kind regards,</p>
<p>Bong</p>
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